{"id":528,"date":"2011-12-15T14:54:07","date_gmt":"2011-12-15T14:54:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omniversity.us\/exopolitics\/2011\/12\/15\/vancouver-futurist-and-former-darpa-time-traveler-question-de-facto-mars-truth-embargo\/"},"modified":"2011-12-15T14:54:07","modified_gmt":"2011-12-15T14:54:07","slug":"vancouver-futurist-and-former-darpa-time-traveler-question-de-facto-mars-truth-embargo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/omniversity.us\/exopolitics\/vancouver-futurist-and-former-darpa-time-traveler-question-de-facto-mars-truth-embargo\/","title":{"rendered":"Vancouver Futurist and former DARPA Time Traveler question de facto Mars truth embargo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#0160;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/exopolitics.blogs.com\/.a\/6a00d8341c73dd53ef0162fddcce46970d-pi\" style=\"display: inline;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"1-MARS_-_The_Deep_Politics_of_Mars_-_6-9-10_-_1\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00d8341c73dd53ef0162fddcce46970d\" src=\"https:\/\/exopolitics.blogs.com\/.a\/6a00d8341c73dd53ef0162fddcce46970d-500wi\" title=\"1-MARS_-_The_Deep_Politics_of_Mars_-_6-9-10_-_1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>by John Kelly<\/p>\n<p>The deep politics of Mars were explored by distinguished Vancouver futurist, <a href=\"http:\/\/exopolitics.blogs.com\/about.html\" target=\"_blank\">Alfred Lambremont  Webre<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.projectpegasus.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">Andrew D. Basiago<\/a>, lawyer and author of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.projectmars.net\/the_discovery_of_life_on_mars\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThe Discovery of Life on Mars\u201d<\/a>, during Wednesday night\u2019s broadcast of Truth Frequency Radio. During <a href=\"http:\/\/truthfrequencyradio.com\/?p=1848\" target=\"_blank\">the show<\/a>, Basiago stated that by <em title=\"Play Audio\">&#0160;<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.yourinnervoice.com\/Audio\/C2C052710HoaglandNut.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">calling<\/a> him both a \u201cnut\u201d and a \u201cdisinformation agent\u201d on Coast to Coast AM, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.enterprisemission.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Enterprise Mission<\/a>&#39;s  Richard C. Hoagland had surrendered \u201cthe mantle of leadership of Mars  research.\u201d Other statements by the pair described their encounters with  \u201cCIA enforcement\u201d along with a <em>de facto<\/em> North American truth embargo of information about the reality of life on Mars.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>A shot in the dark<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A recent media flash point highlighting Mars research was a May 26,  2010 comment made by the Enterprise Mission\u2019s Richard C. Hoagland on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coasttocoastam.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Coast to Coast AM<\/a>,  the most-listened-to late night talk radio show in North America. In  refusing to respond to a request for comment by a caller regarding the  work of Basiago, Hoagland explained why in this way:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>He&#39;s an absolute 100% nut and he is being paid by the intelligence agencies to spread disinformation far and wide.&quot;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to his biography, Andrew D. Basiago, a graduate of both  UCLA  and the University of Cambridge, is a lawyer, writer, and 21st  century visionary. The team leader of Project Pegasus, he is an emerging  figure in the Disclosure Movement who is leading a campaign to lobby  the United States government to disclose such controversial truths as  the fact that Mars harbors life and that the United States has achieved  \u201cquantum access\u201d to past and future events.<\/p>\n<p>Alfred Webre\u2019s biography describes him as a space activist who works  with others to prevent the &quot;weaponization&quot; of space and transform the  permanent war economy into a sustainable, peaceful, cooperative, Space  Age society, re-integrating with a larger, intelligent Universe society.  Webre is the author of \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Exopolitics-Politics-Government-Law-Universe\/dp\/0973766301\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1276217967&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\">EXOPOLITICS: Politics, Government, and Law in the Universe<\/a>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robertson Panel enforcer<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>During their interview on Truth Frequency Radio, Basiago and Webre  both responded to false and defamatory attacks made against them by  Hoagland on Coast.<\/p>\n<p>Webre pointed out:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>[On] one program he called me &quot;crazy&quot;. He actually called me &quot;crazy&quot;&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paolaharris.com\/home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Paola Harris <\/a>was  in the living room with him and can testify to that, and there are 15  million people that heard him call me &quot;crazy&quot; because of these  assertions that I\u2019m making that there\u2019s present life on Mars. That  sounds a lot to me like what the Robertson Panel recommendations were,  right? In other words, why should Richard C. Hoagland, another private  researcher, be enforcing &#8230; the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robertson_Panel\" target=\"_blank\">CIA Robertson Panel<\/a> recommendations of 1953 to debunk any researcher and ridicule them in public if they bring up extraterrestrial issues?\u201c&#0160;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Webre later asked again, \u201cHow is it that Mr. Hoagland, who supposedly  is a private citizen and is a researcher, can now get up and with  impunity on a program that goes to 15 million people and apply the  standards of the 1953 Robertson Panel?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Intelligence attack<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Speaking directly to Hoagland&#39;s remarks, Basiago attempted to clarify:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Richard, which am I? Am I crazy, or am I working in a  very un-crazy way to spread disinformation for US intelligence agencies?  In other words, these are two claims that are impossible to both be  true simultaneously, so each discredits the other claim.\u201d&#0160;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Basiago also gave his version of the chronology of events leading up to the flash point on Coast:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>We had just proved at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alienevent.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Alien Event,<\/a> that Mars is inhabited. And I had just called on the second man to walk  on the Moon, in this epoch of civilization at least, namely, <a href=\"http:\/\/buzzaldrin.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Buzz Aldrin<\/a> to evaluate our data and either affirm or deny the premise that Mars is  inhabited &#8230; I think this actually provoked the US intelligence  community working through Richard Hoagland to attack me in the way that  he did.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Get out of the way<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Weber elaborated more forcefully:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s an urgency to the work that we\u2019re doing. We are  trying to get to the mainstream with this information that many  governmental agencies and sort of hangers-on are trying to block. And  we\u2019re trying to get to these space agencies and educate them that Mars  is inhabited, such that they won\u2019t run into the cognitive dissonance and  still be acting out the imperatives of the 1953 Robertson panel &#8230; The  clock is ticking here. And it\u2019s vital that we get this out. And it\u2019s  vital that if people in the research community, like Richard Hoagland,  don\u2019t transform, well then that they get out of the way.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Other contenders<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There have been other notable critics of Basiago\u2019s Mars research.&#0160;In a  story for the Discovery Channel Website, Ray Villard, the news director  for the Hubble Space Telescope, wrote, \u201cAt a recent convention called,  you guessed it, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.conspiracycon.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Conspiracy Con 2009<\/a>, self-styled Mars sleuth, Andrew Basiago, accused NASA of hiding evidence of Martian life in photos taken from the rover <em>Spirit<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In his blog <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/2009\/01\/06\/anomalous-martian-anomalies\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bad Astronomy<\/a> for Discover Magazine, Phil Plait, like Hoagland and Villard a present  or former NASA employee, wrote, \u201cWell, there is evidence of life in that  image. You can see parts of the rover in it. But I don\u2019t think that\u2019s  what Mr. Basiago is talking about. What I\u2019m talking about is that this  is just more pareidolia, of course, except in this case it\u2019s mixed with a  person utterly convinced that what he\u2019s seeing is real.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In response to his critics, Basiago told the Truth Frequency Radio listening audience:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Here we have literally publicists for the space agency  who, when they are commenting about myself or Alfred or the Mars  findings, aren\u2019t marshaling scientific facts or reason, not even valid  theory, to rebut what we\u2019ve been stating, but have simply engaged in  snide character assassination &#8230; It\u2019s amazing that they would risk the  reputation of the space agency and their own professional standing by  engaging in rank disinformation, because that\u2019s what we have to call  it.\u201d&#0160;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Profound suspicions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the most ambitious remarks heard on the show were those Webre  and Basiago both saved for the Exopolitics community. Citing a truth  embargo against their Mars research, Webre explained that, &quot;We were  prohibited from presenting the Mars findings at the major Exopolitics  conference, literally prohibited &#8230; And I was at the 2010 conference  just recently and I was submitted to a lecture about the non-validity of  these findings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Basiago elaborated by stating:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>So in this vanguard of leading figures in Exopolitics,  over the last two years Alfred and I have been shocked that they\u2019ve not  only been absent without leave. &#8230;They\u2019ve not only shown condign  ignorance of the findings. [We] wish that that was what it had been.  Instead, they have shown this puerile hostility towards even considering  the data, as if they have somehow been instructed that when Mars comes  up, stick with the Hoagland position. &#8230; Quite frankly we\u2019ve had many  discussions and we\u2019re quite mystified as to why all the major figures in  Exopolitics have been defaulting on this issue. We have profound  suspicions that some of them are actually government operatives and  they\u2019re maintaining a gate keeping role and&#0160; actively sequestering the  discourse about Mars.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Webre summarized with his remarks \u201c[To] break the embargo that is  here in North America &#8230; We have to ask, \u201cWhat is the function of this  cover-up, and how are we going to break it?\u201d\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Copyright Jon Kelly<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>All rights reserved<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#0160; by John Kelly The deep politics of Mars were explored by distinguished Vancouver futurist, Alfred Lambremont Webre and Andrew D. Basiago, lawyer and author of \u201cThe Discovery of Life on Mars\u201d, during Wednesday night\u2019s broadcast of Truth Frequency Radio. 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