“Proposed 1977 Carter Extraterrestrial Communication Study”

UFO Studies Done and Proposed by the Carter Administration

Preliminary Study Proposals

It is not a well know fact that the Carter administration actually proposed and hosted a number UFO studies. When Carter first entered the White House it was known from his public declaration of having been a UFO witness, that he was familiar with what the objects were. Further, his campaign promise to release everything held by the U.S. government on the subject, placed the new President into a position where studies would be required to get at the facts.

One study that was proposed and which almost got of the ground was one proposed by the Stanford Research Institute. It has been called the "Carter Extraterrestrial Communication Study."

In May 1977, only months after the inauguration of Jimmy Carter, the preliminaries of a project to study extraterrestrial communications was set up at the Center for the Study of Social Policy at the Stanford Research Institute.

The study was headed by Dr. Alfred Webre, a Yale trained lawyer and Senior Policy Analyst at the Center. Peter Schwartz, another senior Policy Analyst, was an advisor to the project. Tom Thomas, the Supervisor of the Center had approved and signed off on the proposal.

During his interview, prior to being brought on to the Stanford staff, Webre has asked "to do an extraterrestrial project." This study would be based on a theory Webre had published in the early 1970s called the Context Communication Theory of Extraterrestrials which held that extraterrestrial phenomena could be interpreted by certain laws.

While campaigning Jimmy Carter for President had made his declaration of his sighting and intention to release all the UFO data. It provided Webre the ideal opportunity for his study. "It was a godsend," stated Webre. "We took Carter on his word."

Webre immediately began to identify "people inside the Carter White House who were sympathetic to the UFO issue."

The study proposed containing no classified aspects. The initial contact within the Carter white House for the proposal was Stewart Eisenstatt, with the Domestic Policy Staff. Webre pitched the outline of the proposed study. The White House agreed, and the work began.

Webre flew from California to Washington to meet in the Executive Office Building with White House Domestic Policy Staff every two or three weeks. "The proposal was known and approved within the Domestic Policy Staff of the White House," said Webre, "and it was in circulation with the White House Science Advisors Office." The meeting continued with the Carter White House from May 1977 till September 1977.

I was signed in and out and I would meet with her around the proposals. The structure of our proposal was that the White House would remain the overall policy director on this research proposal, which was envisioned to be about three years long. Once a final report was issued under the proposal it would become a White House document, and would come out under their agency and their policy recommendations.

The study to provide knowledge on the subject, and propose a future course of action, had three phases:

Creation of a data base of UFOs and extraterrestrials in private and non-private collections. The proposal involved obtaining data worldwide as opposed to simply the United States

Evaluation phase where searches would be made for "alternate models using the best scientific minds available.

The final report and recommendations, and the creation of "a permanent, open, global data-base under independent control for UFO and EBE (extraterrestrial biological entity) encounters. The final report would have included "recommendation for the recission of intelligence and military secrecy regulations, which interfere with the flow of UFO and EBE data in the open civilian, scientific, and public domain. Hopefully it could have developed an "extraterrestrial communication project to establish non-hostile, open communication from an authoritative human source to whatever intelligence the project might find."

The extraterrestrial communications project came to the proposal stage in September 1977. The White House signed off on it, and Webre and the others involved from SRI "were given the directive to begin the personnel approaches with NASA, and with the National Science Foundation who would be the actual funding agencies for the proposal under the overall direction of the White House. James Fletcher, the NASA administrator, was provided a copy of the proposal, and began reviewing it.

Weber flew back to California to prepare for the next step at SRI. The move by the White House to green light the project, however, had set off alarm bells in the Pentagon among those whose job it was to protect the UFO secret.

When Webre arrived back at SRI, he reported that he was called back into the office of the Senior SRI Official along with Peter Schwartz. Into the room walked an African-American who was the SRI liaison at the Pentagon. He announced that the project was to be terminated. The reason for the termination of the White House approved proposal was, "There are no UFOs." He stated that he had been informed by someone in the Pentagon that "if the study went forward, SRI’s contracts with the Pentagon would be terminated."

As most of the contracts at SRI were tied into the Pentagon, the writing was on the wall for "extraterrestrial communication. Webre was told by the SRI liaison "to stimulate," and play along with it. In this way the liaison stated he would keep his job.

The Senior SRI Officer sided with the Pentagon liaison, and the extraterrestrial communication study for the Carter White House was dead.

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Another person who had heard the story that the Carter
administration was proposing to do a UFO study was Robert Barrow, who
had been corresponding with President Ford, when he was a Congressman,
on the subject of UFOs. Barrow described how the Carter people ended up
talking to him about a possible study.

After Jimmy Carter assumed the Presidency, I heard the rumor along
with everybody else that he might initiate a UFO study. Since I was
quite into UFOs at the time, I made it known that I was interested in
joining any such project in any capacity for which I might be suited.
There were people in Congress who knew of my long-time interest. To my
surprise, one of them recommended me to Carter’s people, and the
transition team indicated to that person that my name would be under
consideration.

That was as far as Barrow was involved in that rumored study. He was
never contacted. Another study of UFOs that was done for President
Carter in the early days of the administration was known as the "L.A.
Study." It was put together for the President by a number of UFO
researchers in the Los Angeles area.

On May 13, 1977 four of the involved scientists Ronald R. Regan,
Ph.D., William F. Hassel, PH.D., Ronald H. Olch, M.s., and Marina S.
Conrad, M.A., addressed a letter to President Carter regarding their
proposed UFO study.

We, the undersigned, represent an informal group of scientists,
engineers and UFO investigators in the Los Angeles area who are in the
process of developing a concise report on UFO phenomena based on
documented UFO cases. This report will discuss UFO characteristics,
physical and physiological phenomena, witness reliability and will make
recommendations on several potentially fruitful areas of scientific
research. When completed, this report will be delivered to the White
House to provide background material to make decisions regarding the
initiation of government sponsored UFO research.

The letter responding to the reseracher’s letter to the President
was returned by Stanley D. Schneider, assistant to the President’s
Science Advisor who replied with the standard line that,

All information on UFOs which the Air Force held from 1947 to 1969,
when the terminated their Project Bluebook following the release of the
Condon Report, has been declassified and placed in the National
Archives where it is a matter of public record.

Schneider did acknowledge that a UFO study was being prepared for the President, and he did not turn it down.

We note with interest that you are preparing a report recommending
such a government-supported research program. If as Jody Powell (the
President’s Press Secretary) suggests, you forward your completed
report to this office, we shall certainly give it out consideration and
make any appropriate recommendations.

The report was finished, and according to one member of the L.A.
group, former NSA member Paul Smith, the report was taken to washington
by Bill Moore. Copies were supposedly also give to Congressmen and
Senators for their action. Bill Moore retired from researching UFOs,
and the exact status of what happened to the finished report remains a
mystery.

President Carter, Daniel Sheehan, and Donald Menzel : The Congressional Research Service Studies for President Carter

"Knowledge will Forever Govern Ignorance And a People Who Mean to be
their Own Governors Must Arm Themselves with the Power Which Knowledge
Gives" The Words of President James Madison as inscribed on the Madison
Building in Washington D.C., where Daniel Sheehan claimed he was
allowed to view the classified section of the USAF UFO Project Blue
Book in 1977, and where he said he discovered the picture of the
crashed flying saucer.

"It’s always difficult to strike a balance between the public’s
right to know and NASA’s need for candor." Marcia Smith, a space
policy senior analyst at the Congressional Research Service in Washington, DC., as quoted by James Oberg

Shortly after President Carter came to power in January 1977, Daniel
Sheehan, then General Counsel to the United States Jesuit National
Headquarters – National Office of Social Ministry in Washington, D.C.,
was reportedly approached by Marcia S. Smith, Director of the Library
of Congress’s Science and Technology Division of the Congressional
Research Service.from 1984-1985.

The Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress is a
research group of more than 400 people who do research for congress and
the White House. They have played more than a passing interest in the
UFO problem over the years. Every one of these UFO research efforts has
been led by Marcia Smith.

Sheehan reported that he was asked by Smith "to participate in a
highly classified major evaluation of the UFO phenomena, and
extraterrestrial intelligence." The person who made the offer was
Marcia Smith. She made Sheehan a special consultant to the
Congressional Research service.

Marcia had in turn learned of Sheehan from her friend Rosemary
Chalk, who at the time was the Secretary to the National Science
Foundation. Chalk and Sheehan attended the same church in Washington.
During one conversation between the two Sheehan had told Chalk that he
had wanted to be an astronaut as a young man, but that the appointments
he has sought to attain this goal had been given away as political
prizes to others. He told Chalk that his goal had been, "to become an
astronaut and to go out into outer space, and meet other
civilizations."

When Sheehan was finished telling his story about how he ended up
becoming a lawyer, Chalk was surprised. She said, "Wow, I never
imagined that was true, but I have someone that you have to talk to."
The person who called was Marcia Smith.

A part of this contact with Marcia Smith and the CRS involved
Sheehan being asked to use his position inside the Jesuit community to
obtain the UFO documents held in the Vatican library. Sheehan made an
approach to his contact at the Vatican.

"She called," recalled Sheehan, "and asked me if as Legal Counsel
for the Jesuit Headquarters whether I could get access for the Library
of Congress from the Vatican library. The Vatican library has a fairly
large section concerning the issue of extraterrestrial intelligence,
and UFOs. I undertook to contact the Jesuit who actually runs the
Vatican library, and much to my shock, they said we couldn’t have
access to it. . . I related this to Marcia Smith."

After the discussion with Marcia and Father Bill Davis, who was the
Director of the National Office Sheehan made a second approach to the
Vatican library.

I sent back a second letter to the Jesuit who was the head of the
Vatican library, and explained to him that this was an official request
that had come from the Congressional Research Service of the Library of
Congress – that it had come from the Congress of the United States, and
that the President himself had wanted to get this information. So I
thought that would get us the information, but I received a second
response from the Vatican Library saying no – the

Jesuit National Headquarters would not be provided with this
information. So I had to regretfully report that back to Marcia Smith
letting her know that I was not able to get it."

Sheehan recalled the encounter with Marcia where she related to him
the reasons behind the study. "She ( Marcia Smith) informed me that she
had been contacted by the Chairman of the Science & Technology
Committee of the House of Representatives, (Congressman Olin Earl
Teague) who in turn had received a directive from the President of the
United States, informing the Committee that he ( Carter) in fact had
personally seen a UFO while he was in Georgia."

Marcia further informed Sheehan that Carter had approached the House
of Representatives Science and Technology Committee based on
information he had obtained from former CIA director George Bush.
Marcia Smith stated that Carter had approached Bush and stated, "I want
to have the information that we have on UFOs and extraterrestrial
intelligence. I want to know about this as President."

George Bush, according to Smith said, "no . . . that he wasn’t going
to give this to him . . . that this was information that existed on a
need to know basis only. Simple curiosity on the part of the President
wasn’t adequate."

This Carter-Bush UFO question, referred to by Smith, was probably
asked during the first 45 minutes of a multi hour briefing on November
19, 1976. This is the only time that Bush and Carter met while Carter
was President-elect. Bush was replaced as DCI, once Carter became
President, so there was never a meeting between the two after Carter
entered the White House.

The 45 minute segment of the briefing given to the President-elect,
was described by the CIA as a briefing on certain "exotic weapons and
very closely held items relating to sources and methods."

The then Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) for President Ford,
George Bush, and his assistant Jennifer Fitzgerald, took Carter and
Walter Mondale to the Carter living room to provide the selected
sensitive information. The other six senior agents apparently weren’t
cleared for this part of the briefing. They remained waiting in the
Carter study till this key part of the briefing was completed.

No matter where the Bush/Carter encounter had taken place, the fact
remained that Carter was refused the requested UFO information from the
CIA Director. Once Carter had been denied the requested information on
UFOs, he decided to follow a suggestion that Bush had made for getting
the information that Carter wanted on UFOs.

" If he was going to do this he would have to follow a different
procedure," stated Sheehan, "that was going to involve all the
different branches of government in authorizing this information,
because they were afraid that President Carter was going to somehow
publicly reveal this. Bush told him that he was going have to go to the
Science and Technology Committee of the House of Representatives, in
the legislative branch, and have them ask the Congressional Research
Service to issue a request to have certain documents declassified so
that this process could go on."

"They were," said Sheehan, "trying to stall this thing. That was
going to take a long time. . .the NSA, the CIA. . .all these groups
were going to hold back documents. So the President much chagrined,
decided that rather than having a major confrontation with Mr. Bush,
(he) would follow this process. He contacted the science and Technology
Committee of the House of Representatives. They in turn contacted the
Library of Congress Research Service, and they undertook two major
investigations."

To determine whether extraterrestrial intelligence existed in our galaxy.
Determine what the relationship of this UFO phenomena might be to extraterrestrial intelligence.
Marcia
Smith was at the time Analyst in Science and Technology, Science
Research Division, at the Congressional Research Service. She was not
ignorant about the field of UFOs, and classified research. Records show
she had been involved in at least five UFO or SETI related
investigations by the Congressional Research Service.

In 1976, just before Carter won the Presidential election Smith
wrote "Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Unidentified Flying Objects: A
Selected, Annotated Bibliography" for the Library of Congress
Congressional Research Service.
In 1975 and then in a 1978 update,
Marcia Smith joined with Dr. George Gatewood, Director of the Allegheny
Observatory and the NASA Ames research Center SETI Program office, to
write a report for the Congressional Research Service called "Life
Beyond Earth." This paper (later turned into a book), was not about
UFOs. "The paper is," wrote Smith, "instead, a synthesis of past and
current thought on the possibility that there is extraterrestrial life
in the universe, together with discussions of the possible impacts of
making contact with it."
In 1976 Smith also co-authored a report
called The UFO Enigma which was produced for the Congressional Research
Service. The report was an overview of the U.S. government involvement
in solving the UFO puzzle, and information that had been released under
the Freedom of Information."
In 1983 Smith produced an updated
report by the same name updating the report with events that had
occurred between 1976 and 1983.

These CRS UFO related reports were very basic UFO reports with
nothing of a controversial or classified nature. Part of the reason for
this is that the reports were publicly published, and also the fact
that UFOs was not a popular subject to be writing about inside the
government

James Oberg, a former NASA consultant, worked in the 1970s with
Marcia on Congressional research reports. Both had an interest in UFOs,
but they also shared an interest in Oberg’s specialty – the Soviet
space program. Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine eventually
came to refer to Marcia Smith as "The Congressional Research Service
Russian space guru."

Oberg recalled Smith’s reticence to writing reports on UFOs. "Back
in the late 1970s," Oberg told this writer, "we briefly discussed the
overview of ‘The UFO Enigma’ (written the year before Carter became
President) and she expressed exasperation at having to put something
like that together, but basically the CRS researches what Congress asks
them to do. . ."

When the story broke that Smith had done two reports for President
Carter in 1977, Oberg contacted this author and provided him with
Marcia Smith’s E-mail so I could obtain her comment. Smith did not
respond to the E-mail, but it appears that she and Oberg did discuss
the two reports. In a second E-mail, Oberg wrote, "She is talking to
me. Is she talking to you."

Asked what Smith had told him about the ETI and UFO studies,
reportedly done by Smith in 1977, Oberg refused to say anything. A
researcher out of Washington, D.C. wrote Oberg asking for smith’s phone
number, but this request was also ignored. Oberg, always ready with an
opinion about anything and everything, was forced to a position of
complete silence.

The reason for this silence was the fact that anything Oberg would
say pro or con would simply increase the pressure on Marcia Smith to
confirm or deny the Sheehan recollections. Smith had no intention to
talk, and Oberg planned to do what he could to help his long time
friend.

Besides the high school level UFO – related reports listed by the
CRS, as being authored by Marcia Smith, there were two that won’t be
found listed in an CRS directory. Those two reports were the two 1977
reports requested by President Carter on extraterrestrial intelligence
and UFOs. These two reports, according to Sheehan, were also written by
Marcia Smith.

From Sheehan’s description of the reports, these two reports were no
high school level reports. Sheehan had know of the writing of the two
reports, due to his role as a special consultant for the CRS. Sheehan
reported that he even was able to read the two reports before they were
sent of to the Science and Technology Committee of the House of
Representatives.

Sheehan’s role for the CRS was to help obtain the Vatican UFO files,
and a second more dramatic role in reviewing classified UFO files from
the former USAF Project Blue Book which was closed in 1969. This
incident occurred in a vaulted room in the basement of the Library of
Congress Madison Building in downtown Washington, D.C.

The new Carter administration had reinstated funding for the Search
for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and Marcia had phoned Sheehan asking
him to speak to the scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, in the
SETI program. The topic of the presentation would be "the potential
theological religious implications of potential contact with
extraterrestrial civilizations." Sheehan qualified for this because of
his degree in religion.

Sheehan reported that he told Smith, "Look if I am going to be doing
this, which I am totally delighted to do, I would like to be able to
get access to some of the data that you might have available in the
course of your doing this investigation for the Science and Technology
Committee in Congress."

Asked what data he would like, Sheehan stated he wanted to see "the classified sections of the Project Blue Book."

Marcia, according to Sheehan stated she didn’t know if she could get
the Air force and defense department to release those files, but agreed
to try. "She contacted them," recalled Sheehan, "and shortly thereafter
she called me and she said, much to her surprise, ‘They have agreed to
do this.’"

"She gave me a particular date and time and told me that I should go
over to the new building at the Library of Congress," Sheehan stated, "
this building had not even been opened yet. There were no people in it.
She told me they are going to bring the files down to the new
building…They had this big vault room downstairs."

Sheehan continued to tell what has now become a very controversial
series of events that occurred two hours into the search. It is a story
he told Marcia Smith just after it occurred, and a story he has told
dozens of times since.

There was a room and these two security officers there at the door
and there was actually a third, plain clothed, sitting at a desk to the
right of them.

As I came in there I showed them all my identification, and they
checked some documentation that they had, and said "Yes. I was supposed
to be here."

As I started to go in, the man sitting at the desk told me I had to
leave my briefcase there. I wouldn’t be allowed to take any notes. It
turned out I had a yellow pad under my arm, so I set the briefcase
down, gave it to him, and I went into the room. I was in there for some
time. There were a bunch of documents there. There was actually a film
machine. It was like a little reel-to-reel – kind of a film machine
there. I don’t know if it was 35mm, or whatever those things were. So
there was actually some little films there.

I looked at some of the films and they were like the classic films
that you have seen, sort of far distant shots of strange moving
vehicles. So I decided I wasn’t making much headway on this, so I began
to look into these little boxes, that had these canisters there. There
was one of these overhead filmstrip machines that was sitting in the
room. I began to take these little canisters out, and open them up, and
put the filmstrips in and look through these things. I don’t know how
many I had gone through. I had gone through several, or at least a few
of these boxes, when I hit upon this one canister that had film and
pictures. I started going through, turning the little crank and there
it was.

Again I have told people about this a number of times. There were
these photographs of unmistakable – of a UFO sitting on the ground. It
had crashed, apparently. It had hit into this field and had dug up,
kind of plowed this kind of trough through this field. It was wedged
into the side of this bank. There was snow all around the picture. The
vehicle was wedged into the side of

this mud like embankment kind of up at an angle. There were Air
Force personnel. As I cranked the little handle, and looked at
additional photos, these Air Force people were taking pictures.

In the photograph they were taking photographs of this vehicle. One
of the photos actually had the Air Force personnel with this big long
tape measure measuring this thing. You could see that they had these
parkas on, with little fur around their hoods. You could see that they
had the little name tags on their jacket. They were clearly U.S. Air
Force personnel.

I was kind of in this strange state saying, "Here it is!" So I
turned the crank for more pictures, and I could see on the side of this
craft these like little insignias – little symbols. So I turned ahead a
couple of pictures to see if there was a closer picture. Sure enough
there was. One of the photos had kind of a close-up picture of these
symbols. So what I did is, I was getting nervous. I looked around, and
the guys weren’t watching or anything. They were outside of the room,
so I took

the yellow pad, and I flipped it open to the little grey cardboard
backing and I flipped it under the screen. I shrank the size of the
picture to the exact same size as the back of the yellow pad, and
traced the actual symbols out in detail, verbatim of what was there.

Once I had actually seen these pictures, and actually chosen to copy
down and trace these symbols from this craft, I just decided that I
should get out of there. So I got up closed the little pad, and I put
the film back in the canister. I put all the boxes back where they
were, and put the yellow pad under my arm, and just walked out. As I
came through the door, I went over to get my briefcase up, and the man
at the little desk that was sitting there pointed to the yellow pad
under my arm, and he said, "What’s that you’ve got there?"

I said,"That’s the yellow pad that I had with me."

He said, "Let me see that." He reached out and I handed it to him.
He flipped through the yellow pages, and never looked at the back,
never looked at the inside cardboard backing, and handed it back to me.
So, I just put it under my arm, got my briefcase and walked out of
there. I took this with me, and I reported the details to Marcia. I
also prepared my three hour seminar for JPL.

Marcia then drafted the two reports for the House Science and
Technology Committee. "I ended up getting copies of the two reports,"
said Sheehan, "one on extraterrestrial intelligence, and the other on
the phenomena of Unidentified Flying Objects.

"The first report on extraterrestrial intelligence," said Sheehan,
"stated the Congressional Research Service of the official United
States Congressional Library, in its official report to the President,
through the House of Representatives Science and Technology Committee,
concludes that there are from two to six highly intelligent, highly
technologically developed civilizations in our own galaxy over and
above our own."

"In the second report they had drawings of different shapes of UFOs
that have been sighted," continued Sheehan. "They didn’t site any
particular cases, but they said that they believed there was a
significant number of instances where the official United States Air
Force investigations were unable to discount the possibility that one
or more of these vehicles was actually from one of these
extraterrestrial civilizations. They put this together, and sent it
over to the President. I ended up seeing a copy of it."

Sheehan’s contact with the CRS went only to Marcia Smith. It did not
extend to Smith boss, Dr. Jack Gibbons. Sheehan told this writer that
he was not even aware of whom Gibbons was. It is assumed that Gibbons
knew, and approved of the UFO related reports that Smith was writing.
This would extend to the secret UFO report prepared for the House of
Representatives, and President Carter, if the story Sheehan tells is
true.

This connection is important because following a long period as the
head of the Office of Technological Assessment for the Congressional
Research Service, Dr. Gibbons went on to become Assistant to the
President for Science and Technology in the Clinton White House. As
science advisor to President Clinton, Gibbons dealt with the
Rockefeller White House UFO initiated by Lawrence Rockefeller. Despite
his close relationship to the UFO investigations that were being
conducted by Marcia Smith, during and just after the Carter
administration, Gibbons strangely told Rockefeller in 1993, that he was
totally ignorant of the UFO subject.

According to 1,000 pages of UFO documents released by the Clinton
Office for Science and Technology Policy, Gibbons quickly overcame his
claimed UFO ignorance. He not only met with Rockefeller and his
representatives about UFOs, but he headed up a White House initiative
to declassify documents that it was hoped would reveal the true story
of the events surrounding the crash of an object near Roswell, New
Mexico in July 1947.

Finally, in research to discovery if Smith produced a secret UFO
report for President Carter, a strange discovery was made. As noted
above, in 1976 Marcia Smith headed up a research report prepared by the
Congressional Research Service titled "The UFO Enigma." Strangely, the
very next year, 1977, a book using exactly the same title "The UFO
Enigma" was published by Doubleday. The author was arch-debunker of
UFOs, Donald Menzel.

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4 thoughts on ““Proposed 1977 Carter Extraterrestrial Communication Study”

  1. Jimmy wasn’t the only president to experiance UFO encounters.He did use the executive orderthat lists people & their encounter.

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